Post Update: Consumers can go to www.optoutprescreen.com to have their names blocked from being sold as a trigger lead. I also posted a letter a borrower received from a company after their credit was pulled. Notice that the lender is pimping an option ARM product.
The three major credit bureaus, Equifax, Transunion, and Experian, have found a new way to make money off of people’s personal information. This new way is called trigger leads. What they are basically doing is selling your personal information to competing lenders anytime a lender checks your credit for the purposes of obtaining a mortgage. In other words, the act of applying for a mortgage triggers them to offer your name and contact information to competing lenders as a “fresh lead.” As a result, soon after you apply for a mortgage, you are likely to receive a call from another mortgage lender attempting to gain your favor. This may help competition, but I believe as a whole it is bad for consumers.
For those of you that don’t know, one of the hardest things about being in the mortgage business is obtaining new clients. It takes years of good work and results to build a solid referral base. For loan officers who do not have an established client base or worse, boiler room mortgage hack shops, buying “leads” is the only way they have a shot at making a living. In sales, a lead is contact information on someone who might be interested in buying your product. The more you have, the better your chances. The credit bureaus have realized that they posses the most valuable information in the mortgage business – qualified, ready to purchase or refinance leads.
When someone is applying for a mortgage, the bureaus track these “inquiries” as part of generating the consumer’s FICO score. By compiling the data of borrowers who have recently applied for a mortgage, in combination with their FICO scores, the bureaus can now sell your information to other lenders as mortgage leads. There are a number of problems with this practice. Primarily, the bureaus are sharing your personal information with third parties without your expressed permission. Given that so much in our society is based on credit scores and the prevalence of identity theft, I do not believe the bureaus should be engaged in these types of activities. The bureaus essentially have a monopoly on something that is almost as important as a social security number and they are using it to generate further profits. Credit reporting should be about reporting credit factually and accurately (something the bureaus sorely need to improve on), not generating obscene profits from selling the information of their subjects (the American public) unwillingly. In addition, applying for a mortgage is a personal matter. It is no one else’s business that you applied for a mortgage!
Second, as a lender, I certainly don’t appreciate the bureaus sharing my client’s information with the competition. Don’t get me wrong, I am as competitive as anyone, but they are piggybacking on my efforts to obtain clients. Additionally, I am the one paying for the credit reporting services from the bureau. They are basically charging me to get my client’s credit report, then selling the fact that I paid for your credit report to competing lenders.
Finally, I do not think it is in the best interest of the consumer. As mentioned before, the companies that are likely to buy these leads from the bureaus are generally not companies smart consumers would want to deal with. They are likely to be boiler room telemarketing companies with inexperienced employees who are trained to hard sell the unsuspecting lead. I cannot emphasize enough that the most reputable loan officers in this business do not need to engage in lead buying to obtain business. Our business is obtained from direct client referrals from previously satisfied clients. Fortunately, the media has picked up on this practice and written some fairly good articles about it. I would advise you to read these and contact your congressman or senator to make this practice illegal. The Washington Post writes a good article about this practice.
Because the bureaus have permeated so much of our daily lives, I doubt they are going to listen to consumers. It is already nearly impossible to get errors corrected in a timely manner, so I doubt this will be any different. Nevertheless, I thought you should know and this is my two cents.
YOUR NOW COMPLAINING, THIS GIVES THE ADVANTAGE TO THE CONSUMER AND OFFERS COMPETITION,
NOW YOU COMPLAIN IN A DOWN MARKET, YOU WERE JUST CASHING CHECKS THE PAST 5 YEARS, TO BAD.
You are entitled to your opinion. I know for fact most of my clients don’t appreciate their information being sold as many have discussed this issue with me. My complaint is that brokers who are incapable of generating their own business are piggybacking off of my efforts. I don’t have a problem with competition, I have a problem with my hard earned marketing dollars being used to sell my client’s information to my competitors. Additionally, I don’t think this is good for consumers because the lenders who generally use these types of services are not the most reputable lenders and tend to rely on bait & switch tactics. There is an uproar over this practice I predict that it will be outlawed.
My only argument with this is the # of better deals for the consumer that I have personally witnessed directly related to these small hungry guys, generating a mere $500 check getting the same rate for less. The bait/switch tactic is played out, IMHO. Most shops have at least one person that can help the juniors structure a deal to compete with you fat cats, but make less.
I love your column and have plenty referral based business(never enough) But when those cold winter months come and my pipeline is shy, i don’t have a problem buying a quick 100 leads, getting a quick 5 small deals and getting thru the slim times. I win these deals due to real comp. and maybe clearing $750/per. All in all better for the consumer.
one more thing, the bait/switch tactic has been outlawed. Just not enforced, that is up to the the consumer to report these violations. Which never happends, go figure.
Great column, keep it going!
I don’t doubt that some consumers may score a great deal. However, from what I have seen, I believe more do not and get taken advantage of. Bait & switch may be illegal, but it is live and well. All one has to do is look at some of the nonsense advertised by some companies in this business. I appreciate the feedback!
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Trigger leads are all about offering choices to consumers. Too many times, especially in the subprime market, lenders offer deals with little or no net benefit all the while charging 5-7 points front and back on the deal.
Many states have adopted strong predatory lending laws to try to police your industry from RAPING often poor, financial uneducated consumers who have for years swallowed the line of BS that “this is the best rate we can get you – or the is the only deal you qualify for” when it just isn’t true. When multiple lenders compete for the same borrowers that was told he had no good options you’d be surprised how often a number of MUCH better offers surface.
The NAMB took the issues of triggers all the way to the FTC. You know what they said – they are not outlawing triggers. You know why, the don’t have the authority. Triggers don’t violate the FCRA, they offer often disenfranchised borrowers choices, and too many mortgage brokers have forgotten how to earn business. Too many years of being just order takers. Too many times grossly misleading consumers to take their “best deal” when in fact it was on;y the best deal for the broker and not the consumer.
The NAMB also stoked the flames of identity theft concerns regarding triggers – WHAT A JOKE!
NEVER on a trigger lead is the borrowers SSN, date of birth, or any other information that isn’t already public info given out. Nothing on a trigger lead is giving an identity thief anything that takes him closer to stealing your mojo.
Trigger leads have been around forever. It’s only in the last 18 months that they have been effectively used in the mortgage industry.
Apply for a credit card…guess what, you get 10 more offers in the next week. Why, a trigger is generated at the bureau and sold to credit issuers…is anyone screaming about that – NO!
Same in the insurance and automotive industries too.
Every American with a phone number can opt-out of the bureaus marketing lists. But it’s funny, I don’t see consumers complaining. A call from a mortgage company based on a trigger is somehow more annoying than any other mortgage cold call that interrupts their dinner? I think not!
The NAMB will always talk about the 1%-2% of THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIP that are flat out unethical. Trust me, it isn’t a trigger lead that makes them lie to a prospect. They do it with teaser rates on direct mail, phone calls to non-FCRA regulated lists, etc.
Triggers aren’t to blame. Competition makes America great. Triggers EXPOSE the very brokers that cry foul when they have their prospect move to a better deal.
That is truly the rest of the story of trigger leads.
I really hope the rates get better!